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Messagepar Nicolas » Jeu Fév 07, 2008 19:34:21

Alors pour te répondre de manière pacifique Catt, bien sur que TOUT LE MONDE ici souhaiterait qu'aucun animal ne soit euthanasié.
PETA est une organisation de défense des droits des animaux, elle n'est normalement pas en charge de refuges.
Effectivement, avec des mots, on peut mettre un terme à la faim dans le monde dès ce soir et libérer tous les animaux du monde tout de suite...

Le chien qui m'a accompagné durant toute mon enfance a terminé sa vie sous le coup d'une injection.
Je peux effectivement attester que j'en ai pleuré plus d'une fois.

Aurait-il été plus heureux en mourant naturellement et en continuant à se vider jour après jour? La réponse, je ne l'ai pas.

Maintenant, le budget de PETA est publique et je pense qu'il serait bon que certaines personnes s'intéressent ne serait-ce qu'aux frais qu'engendrent la tenue d'un refuge avec ou sans euthanasie avant de prétendre que PETA a l'argent pour s'occuper des dizaines de millions de chiens errants aux Etats-Unis.

Le propos de PETA n'est pas de faire des refuges mais de mener des campagnes pour les droits des animaux dont les abolitionnistes ne détiennent pas l'exclusivité puisque la première déclaration universelle des droits de l'animal s'est faite en 1978... et ce n'était ni Newkirk, ni Francione, ni Singer, ni Reagan qui étaient derrière.
Après que Gary Francione revendique des droits égaux pour les humains et les animaux, c'est autre chose.

Je maintiens que dans un monde où 99,9% de la population cautionne l'exploitation animale, et où des milliards d'animaux meurent à travers le monde, des réformes sont nécessaires ne serait-ce que pour améliorer un peu la condition des milliards qui se feront encore assassinés d'ici à ce que l'abolition ait lieu... la Terre a le temps d'exploser cent fois avant ça.

Quand Catt parlait de réformes, je pense que c'était quand à transformer des refuges qui euthanasient en des refuges "prolife"...

Ma question a d'ailleurs été éludée. les abolitionnistes sont-ils aussi contre la stérilisation?
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